 | | | From: Null@ktb.new (Null)
Newsgroups:alt.religion.scientoloy
Subject: Shy David lost his KTB account due to complaints
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 21:37:51 GMT
The account has been terminated.
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From: 1Anti‑Cult* ‑ www.users.wineasy.se/noname/ <The.Galactic.Federation@ThePentagon.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Sincere apology to Homer Smith
. . .
Hey, you keep your brother under control instead of bother with what I
do or not do. He's been issuing 1000's of rogue cancel messages over the
last months, (perhaps even longer), he also tried to hide them with some
not so clever path editing.
I guess Jason Kong at KBT managed to cross reference his access logs
with the cancel logs, and we all know what happened after that.
Sten‑Arne
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On Sat, 09 Sep 2000 14:02:33 GMT.
In Message‑ID: <srnabo2ect642@corp.supernews.com>
From: FRice@SkepticNOSPAMTank.ORG (Fredric L. Rice).
Organization: The Skeptic Tank.
Wrote on the subject: Re: Shy David lost his KTB account due to
complaints:
>Null@ktb.net (Null) wrote:
>
>> The account has been terminated.
. . .
You call Jason Kong at KBT, and say that you're the brother of the rogue
canceller. Yes, he got the full cancel log now, and there is no problem
to comapre them with his access logs.
You can stop spinning like a scientologist now. Your brother was found
out to be a censor asshole, and nothing you say or do will change that.
Sten‑Arne
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From: 1Anti‑Cult* ‑ www.users.wineasy.se/noname/ <The.Galactic.Federation@ThePentagon.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Where is Fredric Rice?
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 18:19:59 +0200
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 08:35:10 ‑0700.
In Message‑ID: <39BBAA2E.AD8BAF9F@pacbell.net>
From: barb <bwarr@pacbell.net>.
Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services.
Wrote on the subject: Re: Where is Fredric Rice?:
>lameduck@cotse.com wrote:
>>
>> On 10 Sep 2000 07:07:06 GMT, J. R. Ford <jrford@atlascomm.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sat, 09 Sep 2000 20:20:40 ‑0700, Saint Xine <xine.@altavista.net>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Sat, 09 Sep 2000 22:26:52 ‑0400, <lameduck@cotse.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Fredric, you've been awfully quiet about your brother's account cancellation.
>> >>>Are you part of his crime syndicate? Or do you just plan to take the fifth?
>> >>
>> >Actually, I read a post a little while back that from ShyDavid that
>> >said he was going to cancel his account and start another one in an
>> >attempt to find out who was trying to masquerade as him.
>>
>> I think that plan was scrapped when he saw his reflection in the medicine
>> cabinet mirror while shaving this morning.
>
>Well, that was a stupid thing to say! Izzat your best shot? Tsk, tsk.
>Sad, really.
Drop it. ShyDavid is guilty as charged. Jason Kong at KBT would have no
problem to find him, from his access logs, and the cancel logs that he's
been provided with.
It's no doubt that ShyDavid was a censorous asshole, and that he tried
to hide it too, with some not so clever path editing.
Sten‑Arne
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From: plight@rocketmail.com
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,news.admin.net‑abuse.usenet,comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: Re: Plight: What do you know? (Answer: Not much)
Date: 9 Sep 2000 12:29:17 ‑0700
In article <62dkrsg78kfndljooooh69jps2oc22rjj6@4ax.com>, ptsc says...
>On 9 Sep 2000 02:01:43 ‑0700, plight@rocketmail.com wrote:
>
>>(Was: PTSC: What do you know?)
>
>>On Sat, 09 Sep 2000 01:10:42 ‑0400, bill@scconsult.com (Bill Cole) wrote:
>
>>>Homer intentionally allowed world posting access to news2. He made a
>>>conscious decision some time back to enable cancels there as well. Unless
>>>he is far dumber than he has shown signs of, he knew full well that abuse
>>>of that openness was possible, and I believe I've seen him discuss the
>>>problematic issues of third party cancels and the ethical compromises
>>>involved. In short: Homer chose to open his systemn to possible abuses
>>>that he did not expect to happen, and frankly I'm rather surprised that it
>>>happened this way as well. It's not like there aren't hundreds of other
>>>less carefully managed open news servers to inject bogus cancels through.
>>>The strongest support I see for Shy David's claim of innocence is in fact
>>>that this looks far dumber about how news works than I believed him to be.
>
>>So its really Homer's fault that David Rice is a deceitful liar? You are a
>>remarkably autocratic windbag, Bill Cole. A long term critic on ars sets
>>himself up as censor, one that you practically endorse‑ and its obvious what
>>your position is on *special* content cancels‑ so you start with your inexpert
>>spin control.
>
>You know what, you are pathetic. The psych spew you morons have been blasting
>into ars to distract from the crimes of your cult is often only a
>hair's‑breadth from cancellable,
Considering this consensus you pretend to represent actually consists of
fanatical collaboration between you, Arnie Lerma, William Barwell, Warrior,
David Rice and Bill Cole and perhaps a few other unnamed co conspirators your
boast resolves to an unfulfilled longing. This is proven by the fact that Rice
had to resort to tactics that even you are forced to condemn not because you
disagree but because Rice got caught.
Your select group may consider ars a private playground for critics where
flights of fancy support nearly any justification to claim censorship rights.
However you still haven't been able to extend your third party cancel powers to
include discretionary privileges to dictate content in an unchartered alt.
newsgroup. Not that you haven't tried but its still no sale.
>and you play the technicalities like a fiddle after five years
>of always ramping up to cancellable levels eventually when your shit is
>tolerated. It has taken literally years of work spanking you pathetic cretins
>to get you to stop actively launching huge DOS attacks on the group.
Check back with the real world again. You speculate and libel with abandon
because you are an anonymous deadbeat. On the other hand when it comes to what's
on the record, copyright cases have been won in real world courts and critics
here have been ordered to pay real damages. What have you got on the other side
of the ledger? Nothing. Despite all the haranguing after all these years you
still have nothing. Why? Because there was nothing in the first place. Your
Usenet crime theories read like, "Col. Mustard in the dining room with a lead
pipe."
>ptsc
Patrick
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